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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:19 pm 
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hi.

just wondered

if you put in a el manifold when you put a el ecu in a ed does the power economy switch work in reverse as in if its in power mode its actually now in ecomomy or does it stay the original way it was on the ed ecu

if switch goes in reverse how could you get it to work in the original positions it was with the ed ecu. is it possible to wire up relays so the switch will still work in the original positions it was in the ed with the ed ecu.

how long does it normally take to remove the ed manifold and acc cable and pedal and put the el manifold complete with everything, acc cable/pedal and modify the cruise control cable. how much work is it

is it possible to join part of the ed cruise control cable to the el cruise control cable end with guy wire clamps so the cruise control cable will work again

when you put in the el bbm in a ed do you have to rotate the distributor so the plug faces the other way or will it be fine left the way it faces in the ed model
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:38 pm 
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fairmont1 wrote:
hi.

just wondered

if you put in a el manifold when you put a el ecu in a ed does the power economy switch work in reverse as in if its in power mode its actually now in ecomomy or does it stay the original way it was on the ed ecu

if switch goes in reverse how could you get it to work in the original positions it was with the ed ecu. is it possible to wire up relays so the switch will still work in the original positions it was in the ed with the ed ecu.

how long does it normally take to remove the ed manifold and acc cable and pedal and put the el manifold complete with everything, acc cable/pedal and modify the cruise control cable. how much work is it

is it possible to join part of the ed cruise control cable to the el cruise control cable end with guy wire clamps so the cruise control cable will work again

when you put in the el bbm in a ed do you have to rotate the distributor so the plug faces the other way or will it be fine left the way it faces in the ed model


1. yes with the el ecu the power economy light works oposite.
so when the power light is on in the ed cluster its actually in economy mode.. this is because the el cluster has a light for economy instead of power,
i think it would be easier to modify the cluster light filter and fit the letering from the el so it lights up as economy...

2.it would take about 4 hours to remove and replace the manifold and do the bbm conversion..

3. yes i choped the ed cruise cable shorter, used the el outer cable end and used a crimp to re secure the el cable end to the ed cable.
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the dizzy will be fine..
you only need to change the dizzy position if your doing the serpentine conversion using the el aircon compressor...
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 Post subject: Re: bbm
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:42 pm 
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is it possible to wire up a relay so the power economy switch in the el ecu works the way it did in the ed ecu
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 Post subject: Re: bbm
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:27 am 
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TROYMAN wrote:
i think it would be easier to modify the cluster light filter and fit the letering from the el so it lights up as economy...


Actually aren't the EL cluster different as they use an LCD display and the word economy lights up on it so you can't use it to mod the ED one you will need to make your own.
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 Post subject: Re: bbm
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:02 pm 
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LP, only the Fairlane cluster has the Economy word in the LCD screen. All the others have the Economy word along the bottom, which can be modded.

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 Post subject: Re: bbm
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:42 pm 
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BenJ wrote:
LP, only the Fairlane cluster has the Economy word in the LCD screen. All the others have the Economy word along the bottom, which can be modded.

BenJ


Oh well then don't look for a Fairlane cluster to help mod the ED one.
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 Post subject: Re: bbm
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:58 pm 
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I just cut the power bit off my ED xr6 dash (the long black strip on the bottom or the dash with all the warnings and displays) and replaced it with the piece out of a Mitsubishi Colt Dash Cluster I had here for the POWER/ECON light for the 4 spd and power / econ lever. Works well its Orange not green now tho?

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:36 am 
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is it possible to use a el xr6 computer in a log manifold, will it just be the same power as a ed xr6 or will it run rough and how do people get the el xr6 computers working with a log manifold and run smooth and whats the fuel consumption like on a el xr6 ecu with a log manifold

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:16 pm 
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el had DUEL ignition maps for the BBM (short and long runners) id say you would loose power rather than gain any and pinging may be an issue too

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:14 pm 
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is it possible to have the bbm taken out the el ecu so it works like a ed ecu for a cheap price and hoe do you get around the bbm without putting it on
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:40 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: bbm
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:49 pm 
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fairmont1 wrote:
is it possible to have the bbm taken out the el ecu so it works like a ed ecu for a cheap price and hoe do you get around the bbm without putting it on


if you wanted to do that?? just keep the ed ecu..
the main reason people use the el ecu is for the bbm function...
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:50 pm 
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when you remove the heater steel hose going around the back of the engine how hard is it to get to the bracket at the back of the engine do people do them with the engine/head in
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:13 pm 
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fairmont1 wrote:
when you remove the heater steel hose going around the back of the engine how hard is it to get to the bracket at the back of the engine do people do them with the engine/head in


the exhaust manifold needs to come off to get the pipe out, and once the exhaust manifold has been removed you can get to the top bellhousing bolt with a ring spanner to undo the pipe bracket..
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 Post subject: Re: bbm
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:34 pm 
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so for the sake of an example... you wouldnt be able to have serpentine setup and thermos on a car running a log manifiold, without a chip?
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