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 Post subject: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:31 am 
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Hi guys,
First post herea as I am, or was until now, a virgin mmember of this site for the glorious ford motor vehicle.
My query is about the rear suspension on my AU wagon.
I have anXRS and the front is lowered to the point that if i go any lower I will need camber pins fitted, (maybe next year..lol) but the rear is at standard XR height.
I realise that I would be best off to have the springs reset and retensioned but the price of that is a no go as I am unemployed due to a back injury suffered when I was nursing.
Is there a cheaper alternative that won't require me to cut the corner off the shocky mount like blocking does and how low can a man go.
I will spit at the first guy that says chihauha...I can clean the screen later :lol:

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:08 pm 
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Gidday, and welcome to Fordmods.

I have just installed 2.5" blocks in my EB wagon. It has worked well.

Not sure why you would have to cut off part of the shock mount, unless the AU spring saddles and mounts are very different to the earlier cars.

I don't think there is an alternative method to lower a leaf spring Ford Wagon. In my old Val Ute I was able to reverse the rear hangers so they pointed up instead of down, but that is not feasible in the EB, not to mention the terrible pinion angle.

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 Post subject: Re: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:10 am 
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Thanks Ben.
The reason the shock mount has to be cut is that if you have wide wheels and block it, the shock mount rubs on the wheel.
I only know this because I was looking at an AU that was having the exhaust done at the same time as mine.
Happens to all the falcons after AU

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:54 pm 
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you cant block an AU. i have a ute (same rear)
i got King Spring SL replacement leafs from supercheap for about 350.00 i think.
took about 1 1/2 hrs to do myself. but i go quotes for 130.00 for a shop to do it.
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 Post subject: Re: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:24 pm 
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Got a price and info from Peddars and Redcliffe springs tonlower the rear.
For Peddars to do it (lower it 1 and 3/4 inches) they want $2400
To just reset my springs that I have removed they want 2200
Redcliffe Springs on the other hand would do the job for $2075 and reset for 1700.
I am guessing would be cheaper to buy a set of lowered Kings from supercheap as previously mentioned for around the $400 mark

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:01 pm 
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You would be better off buying a set of ED XR springs NEW, they are STILL available from Ford for $475.00 each part number EETVE 5560A.
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 Post subject: Re: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:37 am 
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^^^^ EF XR6 Wagon rears aren't available ???
I notice EF/EL rear leafs are a 94DA number - so there must be a change in design somewhere.

B&L, try gearbox-suspension-brake-driveline-f4/how-2-lower-rear-e-series-wagon-t80226.html. Mine lowered around 2" at the back. You will lose a bit of payload, but if your not carrying regular loads, shouldn't be a big issue. I'd also advise to disconnect your lower shock and make sure it has enough travel up and down.

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:40 am 
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Bud_and_Lynn wrote:
Got a price and info from Peddars and Redcliffe springs tonlower the rear.
For Peddars to do it (lower it 1 and 3/4 inches) they want $2400
To just reset my springs that I have removed they want 2200
Redcliffe Springs on the other hand would do the job for $2075 and reset for 1700.
I am guessing would be cheaper to buy a set of lowered Kings from supercheap as previously mentioned for around the $400 mark


Are you kidding me! tell pedders to pull their heads in!
I took my stock ones out and got them reset at pedders Lilydale VIC for a bit over $300 walk in walk out! ive still got the reciept here as well.
Had mine dropped somewhere around 3" (cant remember exactly, measured it in mm)
Soon going to put airbag assist in rear so can still lift it up and tow the boat over summer or carry a full car load of people without it hitting the diff bump stops on big bumps.
The cheapest option would be get lowered king springs but im pretty sure they are stiffer than the origionals and your ride comfort will go out the window a little bit.
Otherwise just get the originals reset and buy lowered rear shocks so you dont bottom out the stock ones (stock shocks dont have the stiffness and travel length left in them after lowering up to and past 2")
Be careful though if you do get the origionals reset and dont use an extra leaf to beef it up as they are fairly soft and as soon as you put weight on the back it will drop a bit more as if at normal height.
Without airbags to help its just a sacrifice of ride comfort for ride height
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 Post subject: Re: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:22 am 
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snap0964 wrote:
^^^^ EF XR6 Wagon rears aren't available ???
I notice EF/EL rear leafs are a 94DA number - so there must be a change in design somewhere.


ED XR wagons, EF/EL XR wagons & AU I/II/III with sports suspension use the same springs for the rear.

WGN, love the wagon and the colour is really great. :)
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:50 am 
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Papa Smurf wrote:
snap0964 wrote:
^^^^ EF XR6 Wagon rears aren't available ???
I notice EF/EL rear leafs are a 94DA number - so there must be a change in design somewhere.


ED XR wagons, EF/EL XR wagons & AU I/II/III with sports suspension use the same springs for the rear.

WGN, love the wagon and the colour is really great. :)


Im pretty sure ive heard something similar about the e series springs before as well so yeah might be on the money there, anyway thanks mate ill add a signature at bottom of page for its build thread i jus started.
Cheers brent.
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 Post subject: Re: AU wagon suspensio
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:42 am 
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yeh,, be careful if you get them reset i would bottom
out all the time and sooooo much tyer scuff. could only carry
2 people convertibility. (the rear would just sink)
thats why i got mine bagged...
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Papa Smurf wrote:
snap0964 wrote:
^^^^ EF XR6 Wagon rears aren't available ???
I notice EF/EL rear leafs are a 94DA number - so there must be a change in design somewhere.
ED XR wagons, EF/EL XR wagons & AU I/II/III with sports suspension use the same springs for the rear.
Any difference in the std springs ??

 

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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:00 pm 
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snap0964 wrote:
Any difference in the std springs ??


YEs there is, although I am not sure the exact difference. The EA/EB/ED std's are obsolete and a couple of the EF/EL ones are still shown and AU wagons seem to use a mixture or EF/EL springs and AU specific ones. Would appear that the main leaf on AU heavy duty springs use round rather than Oval bushes in the Eye.
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:13 pm 
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Interesting, the E series wagon springs run an oval front eye, while the X series utes such as XF/XG/XH, run a round front eye - it seems the one tonne versions have a different diameter eye to the half and 3/4 tonne ones.

 

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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:29 pm 
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snap0964 wrote:
Interesting, the E series wagon springs run an oval front eye, while the X series utes such as XF/XG/XH, run a round front eye - it seems the one tonne versions have a different diameter eye to the half and 3/4 tonne ones.


Yeah the AU standard ones have the oval front as well where as the AU utes have a round front, obviously the same with the EL's so they all must be interchangeable with each other id assume??
I had lowered AU ute king springs which were 1ton rated (stiff as hell in a wagon but awesome to tow with) the round front is a tiny bit wider compared to the oval and prob the 3/4 ton ones but they do still fit in just a bit more effort required to push em up and line up the bolt holes.
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