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 Post subject: Re: Rising Rate Fuel Regulator
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:43 pm 
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The std reg sets base pressure (43.5psi) @ 0vac.
The RR does nothing when seeing vac, so the std reg is able to operate as normal up to 0vac.
With boost added the RR starts to add pressure to the system, so you end up with 43.5 + RR.


ok so the rr goes before the stock one and the stock reg stays where it is.... can someone draw a pic so i know what im ment to do. ive been googleing and searching and cant find what i need...

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:53 pm 
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RR goes after the STD reg.

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thanks makes sense now

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:39 pm 
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what do I do with the vac hoses for the refs? Do both the stnd and the rising reg need boost or vac?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rising Rate Fuel Regulator
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:59 pm 
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I think you can do it a couple of ways.
Std reg before blower (vac only), and RR after blower (vac & boost)
Or both after blower (Vac & boost to both)

I don't see either making way making much of a difference.
Both after blower is easier as you can just tee off the same line.

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:05 pm 
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Hey guys I was wondering something else with my RR Fuel Reg. I'm pretty sure this is how it goes but could you confirm ??

I marked on the two pipes the inlet and outlet of fuel.

The one on the right IN is a bit higher.
The one on the left OUT is a bit lower.

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Correct?

Also what would you guys be setting the initial PSI to??

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:22 pm 
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Don't know about the in/out on that one, but on other RR's it's in on the side and out at the bottom.

EL XR6 FPR is 300 kPa (43.5 PSI) @ WOT, and 250 kPa (32PSI) @ idle

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:18 am 
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MAD wrote:
Don't know about the in/out on that one, but on other RR's it's in on the side and out at the bottom.

EL XR6 FPR is 300 kPa (43.5 PSI) @ WOT, and 250 kPa (32PSI) @ idle



Excellent, thanks MAD :)

My thoughts on how the inlet and outlet for fuel were based on the following picture ...

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 Post subject: Re: Rising Rate Fuel Regulator
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:04 pm 
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Carnt u just run standard ba injectors aslong as there blue there the turbo ones? They just use different fuel pressure to make em flow more and wouldn't u put the rising rate reg were the old reg goes and remove it as it would do nothing different as its still goes threw the standard reg? Sounds wrong to me I'm turbocharging my car I haven't got a clue about how the reg works but just sounds wrong
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:19 pm 
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Jakecar99 wrote:
Carnt u just run standard ba injectors aslong as there blue there the turbo ones? They just use different fuel pressure to make em flow more and wouldn't u put the rising rate reg were the old reg goes and remove it as it would do nothing different as its still goes threw the standard reg? Sounds wrong to me I'm turbocharging my car I haven't got a clue about how the reg works but just sounds wrong
Different engine combos have different fuel requirements, your tuner will be able to adjust it as necessary. Depending in the combo you might be able to get away with high pressure through STD injectors, or you might need bigger injectors. There are many ways to do it and it often comes down to the preference of the tuner you use.

The standard reg controls pressure from Max VAC to zero,then the RR increases pressure with boost on top of the base pressure set by the standard reg.

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:52 pm 
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Jakecar99 wrote:
Carnt u just run standard ba injectors aslong as there blue there the turbo ones? They just use different fuel pressure to make em flow more and wouldn't u put the rising rate reg were the old reg goes and remove it as it would do nothing different as its still goes threw the standard reg? Sounds wrong to me I'm turbocharging my car I haven't got a clue about how the reg works but just sounds wrong


Waste of time using, I believe injectors are the same, NA or Turbo.

Get an after market ECU or an SCT Chip, B Series Turbo fuel reg, AU Fuel rail, Walbro Pump and at least 42lb injectors. Then tune it properly.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:56 pm 
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actually i have an ems ecu for sale complete with tune and injectors..
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:33 pm 
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interested in the injectors n ecu mate thnx and ok haha and haven't really got someone to dyno my car yet not sure who to use? I only want to run around 8-10psi though nothing crazy
Does anyone no where to best to get dyno done dandenong area will drive abit for a better tune
And on a good note I brought a high energy turbocharged sump today just need intercooler done and tune thnx for answering my fuel reg question 2 still dnt get it but haha I just dnt c how it would do anything if its before the standard reg maybe put it on return line fuk nose just sounds wrong cheers
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:08 pm 
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Hello sorry to bum this thread but did someone suggest using a BA fuel rail and FPR? can ya run this direct fit on an N/A id prep for a turbo?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rising Rate Fuel Regulator
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:01 am 
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Hello sorry to bum this thread but did someone suggest using a BA fuel rail and FPR? can ya run this direct fit on an N/A id prep for a turbo?


You can use an AU or BA fuel rail on an EF/EL. The AU takes the BA fuel reg and this means you can use the BA XR6 Turbo fuel reg. Great this with the AU rail is that the 300kpa fuel regs are still available from Ford, or they were till recently. BA rail is easier to change the reg on.

Not sure that a that a Turbo reg will be ok on NA, but maybe someone can confirm that. BA NA fuel reg should be fine for an EF/EL NA.
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