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 Post subject: Re: DO NOT USE HUB ADAPTORS-PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:31 pm 
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yeh i wouldnt trust any of the local tyre shops to get the good ones, ive got some being made for me by me old man (engineer/fitter and turner etc...) getting some good studs and seeing how it goes, i mean drift cars use them and never have issues....those spacers would be put under a s**t load more stress during the few laps then just a daily driver...
i think the main thing is, you're ok the car is ok and no one was killed/injured.
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:38 pm 
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XR-Lane - bought em from Tempe Tyres, and wouldnt suprise me if they are cheap chinese s**t



How long did you say you have had them? take em back and tell them they have problem and you want your money back, and that they need to check the rest of their stock from there suppler.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:37 pm 
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about 40km's max!
a few weeks ago we found the first stud sheared so we rang them up and they said they would send 5 new studs. This was 2 weeks ago and they still havent arrived. So Earlier this week my dad rang them up and asked what was going on, and they said they sent them last thursday express post!!! The business is a friggin joke

...and yes I will try to get a refund now

 

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 Post subject: Re: DO NOT USE HUB ADAPTORS-PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:43 pm 
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The centre locating spigot looks pretty damn thin? :shock: Are you sure it fits the wheel properly and is actually carrying the weight of the car? Scary stuff mate.

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 Post subject: Re: DO NOT USE HUB ADAPTORS-PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:09 pm 
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yea it is pretty damn thin, just measured it with the verniers - approx. 1.3mm
but the fitment it spot on, no play at all

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:10 pm 
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V8 Ghia Mike wrote:
The centre locating spigot looks pretty damn thin? :shock: Are you sure it fits the wheel properly and is actually carrying the weight of the car? Scary stuff mate.

Mike


You just said it yourself. It locates. It does not take the weight of the wheel.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:27 pm 
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Not really sure how your blaming the hub adapters for this and saying proof not to use them - that's a big call. All I'm seeking is proof not to use s**t cheap low quality wheel studs. There's no link that proves the hub adapters were the cause. I'd be willing to beat that if you put those wheel studs into the original front discs the same thing would happen without the hub adapters being in the picture. Remove the studs from those hub adapters and put some decent brand ones in and try again.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:36 pm 
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yeah I totally agree that the studs are to blame.
but I shouldnt have to buy adaptors, to then have multiple studs snap!!
they should put higher tensile studs in these adaptors, or not even bother selling them at all, because they are potentially risking myself and other peoples lives.

plus I shouldnt have to put in the extra effort of replacing all studs just because they sell cheap chinese s**t, and these werent the cheapest adaptors on the market either... these cost me $350

basically, I got screwed over.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:58 pm 
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I don't need photo's to tell ya the hub adaptors are a bad idea :roll:

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:10 pm 
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krisisdog, and all interested

The weight of the car IS meant to be supported by the locating ring/spigot of the hub (or adaptors if fitted). On all the adaptors I have seen I do not consider the locating ring/spigot to be anywhere thick enough.

SVD115- I'd like to see a pic of your ones when completed.

I put one of my cars thru engineering for modifications carried out and was only failed on the rims not being in contact with the hub (aftermarket rims). The engineer said the weight should not be carried on the stud/bolts alone.

It makes sense, nearly 2000kg (fuel and driver included) supported on 20 wheel studs, or 4 rather big, thick locating spigots or hubs "and" studs. I know what I prefer!!!!

The studs are designed to work in a tension load, not a shear load. In our sort of cars you'd have to have an insane amount of hp/kwand tyres that grip the road like they were bolted to the bitumen to produce the same shear load in a rotating moment to shear the bolts/studs.

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 Post subject: Re: DO NOT USE HUB ADAPTORS-PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:17 pm 
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scary how these can just shear off like that wouldnt wanna be pushing too hard on a windy road in the hills or something.....car, meet trees!
Pretty sure id regain some trust if i replaced the studs with some half decent tensile load rated ones as someone else said there used on heaps of jap and drift cars that are driven on a lot harder.
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:20 pm 
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its interesting you say that..
ive got fpv cobra copies on my car and the hole in the rim centre is actually about 5mm larger than the hub spigot..
the same thing with the csa prowlers i had previously..
so even if you dont run hub adaptors and your running aftermarket e series offset rims, you will find most of them dont locate on the hub spigot, relying on the studs to hold the rims on..

in this case it looks like the adaptor studs are zink or chrome plated rubbish...

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:22 pm 
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Man thats crap. I was going to buy some BA mags and use the spacers, but I think I will give it a miss now.
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:28 pm 
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yeah man, I dunno hey, maybe if you hunt around you might be able to find proper quality adaptors, or what others are suggesting, replacing the supplied studs with proper high tensile studs.
But at the end of the day, knowing that Im driving on stock rims, and not having to stress about wheel studs snapping, is more important than driving on good looking wheels.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:28 pm 
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You know they can use a slip on plastic ring to space out the hub for rims with a bigger bore?
90% of aftermarket wheels for AU+ have a larger centre bore to cater for the Jap's.

 

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